Ok lets get controversial!
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Ok lets get controversial!
Who here C1/C2 crowd could place a higher value (sentimental or monetarily) on a well built and engineered car, than for a NCRS Top Flight car in consideration of the nice Resto-Mods, the Custom Show Cars, some of the very clean Drag or Road Racing cars that make the rounds with many of our fellow forum members.
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And to add fuel to the fire, I think its the (distant) future of the hobby
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I enjoy seeing both probably equally.
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I wouldn't mind seeing pictures of cars that would warrant reaching for the wallet!
I was watching a little bit of that auction this week, where some of the Restomods were getting higher prices than a lot of the nicely restored to Originality because some type of Pavlovian response was occurring in the crowd! I have seen some custom builds by members here on the forum that I would kill a Taliban Freedom fighter for, to have in my garage!
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I personally know of two NCRS Top Flight cars that had the bodies pulled, the original chassis with running gear sold, and the bodies put on restomod chassis.
A 63 coupe and a 65 convertible.
The owners could not be happier with the cars.
Well done resto-mod cars are bringing significantly higher prices than top level restored originals.
I am a big fan of preserving history, but I would be hard pressed to do an NCRS Top Flight level restoration on something like a 62 250 hp, 4 speed, no significant options car vs. turning the same car into a quality resto-mod.
And we won't even get into the values of real race cars with significant racing history.
A quality NCRS Top Flight restored 62 Fuel Injected, big brake, big wheels, heavy duty suspension etc. is in the $100K range (perhaps a bit more).
The 62 LeMans cars, equipped basically the same way, is a $500K car. I had the honor of assisting (in a very small way) in the restoration of the 62 LeMans car.
A 63 coupe and a 65 convertible.
The owners could not be happier with the cars.
Well done resto-mod cars are bringing significantly higher prices than top level restored originals.
I am a big fan of preserving history, but I would be hard pressed to do an NCRS Top Flight level restoration on something like a 62 250 hp, 4 speed, no significant options car vs. turning the same car into a quality resto-mod.
And we won't even get into the values of real race cars with significant racing history.
A quality NCRS Top Flight restored 62 Fuel Injected, big brake, big wheels, heavy duty suspension etc. is in the $100K range (perhaps a bit more).
The 62 LeMans cars, equipped basically the same way, is a $500K car. I had the honor of assisting (in a very small way) in the restoration of the 62 LeMans car.
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Or, its possible that some of the very high dollar selling restomods have a lot more dollars in them than the stock cars.
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Hey hey hey!
Here is one, that is better than the original!
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Love the look and historical significance of an all original, unrestored Corvette. Classic, timeless.... and unfortunately, mechanically outdated. When you consider the quality of aftermarket performance parts that can be bolted on these vehicles... it's really a shame they weren't available 50 years ago.
I've owned several original, stock Corvettes... but usually end up beefing up the suspension... intake... cam...carb.. and exhaust just to bring the vehicle into the 21st century.
I can always turn it back into the mechanical fossil that GM shipped out 50 years ago.
I've owned several original, stock Corvettes... but usually end up beefing up the suspension... intake... cam...carb.. and exhaust just to bring the vehicle into the 21st century.
I can always turn it back into the mechanical fossil that GM shipped out 50 years ago.
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in the background I did that car in 1980 I know the car and have pictures to prove it ,Small world for sure.
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If the Restomod had a restamped engine and a Pertronix, running a Quickfuel carb, I might value it higher than a restored car with radial tires, synthetic oil, and a reproduction TRIM tag. Unless the restored car was a genuine Barn Find, found in a garage without a barn in sight. Then I'd prefer the restored car - particularly if it was fully restored with custom paint, chrome, Cragar SS mags, and a hurst. You know, restored.
But if either of them insisted on letting their hoods fly open at every car show, to show off their Harry Hot Rod parts, then I wouldn't want either one of them.
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If the Restomod had a restamped engine and a Pertronix, running a Quickfuel carb, I might value it higher than a restored car with radial tires, synthetic oil, and a reproduction TRIM tag. Unless the restored car was a genuine Barn Find, found in a garage without a barn in sight. Then I'd prefer the restored car - particularly if it was fully restored with custom paint, chrome, Cragar SS mags, and a hurst. You know, restored.
But if either of them insisted on letting their hoods fly open at every car show, to show off their Harry Hot Rod parts, then I wouldn't want either one of them.
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No one has mentioned how it feels to re-design a car into your own creation and the proud feeling of making it "your" car.
In my opinion, anyone can unbolt a part, clean it, polish it and put it back in place.
(Although I wonder about some of the posters on this forum)
It takes real skill to modify something to your desired standards. After I sandblasted my frame, I was appalled at the factory welds and just had to do something about them.
And the list goes on...
I can’t see how a driver, that runs better, corners and rides better could be worth less than a car that has inherent faults.
In my opinion, anyone can unbolt a part, clean it, polish it and put it back in place.
(Although I wonder about some of the posters on this forum)
It takes real skill to modify something to your desired standards. After I sandblasted my frame, I was appalled at the factory welds and just had to do something about them.
And the list goes on...
I can’t see how a driver, that runs better, corners and rides better could be worth less than a car that has inherent faults.
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I figure it's their car, they can do what they want with it.
I don't appreciate people telling me what I should do to my car, so I don't tell them what to do with theirs.
That said, I can appreciate the work that goes into any flavor of these cars even if it's not my particular cup of tea.
I don't appreciate people telling me what I should do to my car, so I don't tell them what to do with theirs.
That said, I can appreciate the work that goes into any flavor of these cars even if it's not my particular cup of tea.
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In 40 years, will today's 'Restomods' be viewed in the same manner as 70's customs are today?
"Ewww, that car is so 2010 - what were they thinking (drinking, smoking)?"
Just buy a new Corvette and tell people it's a Restomodded '50s/'60s whatever with custom body work! (One look at the tail lights, and they'll believe you).
"Ewww, that car is so 2010 - what were they thinking (drinking, smoking)?"
Just buy a new Corvette and tell people it's a Restomodded '50s/'60s whatever with custom body work! (One look at the tail lights, and they'll believe you).
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Both equally. But I would rather own, and be more proud to own a piece of history.
A restomod is a cool project if you have money to throw away. Id rather have a new vette and a couple old vettes than one Restomod.
A restomod is a cool project if you have money to throw away. Id rather have a new vette and a couple old vettes than one Restomod.
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I like both, as to create each one take a serious amount of money, time and dedication to see the project through completion. However it is the N**S "You have the wrong hose clamp" or "Those are the wrong bolt heads" type people I can do without when viewing everyone's car as if everyone should give a rats behind what they think.
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