Notch

No spin. It's just marketing and economics.

Stingray23

VETTE-NV

I get it. More money than brains.

Notch

I take it you haven't taken any college level marketing and/or economics courses.

OnPoint

Notch

BTW, how do you suppose the people who can afford a +$100k Porsche (or Ferrari, or Aston Martin, or Lamborghini, etc) got their money? Is there a chance they may have used their brains??

gthal

Some, yes. Some, dumb luck... right place, right time. Some, plain old hard work. Some from Daddy... maybe the majority

Notch

Right. So one can not classify all people who buy the cars I mentioned as "having more money than brains".

Guibo

So then tell me how a $60k Cayman is conferred higher status than a $120k ZR1, if not for the ignorance of the masses in thinking it's a 911? The prestige or status (your #1 reason for purchase for "a majority" of Porsche buyers, remember) is clearly linked to and dependent on the 911.

Considering you couldn't even keep track of the question you asked me in the other thread, and your poor comprehension here, I'd say you were in no position to be making snide comments about test scores.

Achmed, you didn't answer:
"What do you suppose the C6 Z06's target demographic income was?
Are you telling me there is no difference between the median income of a Corvette buyer vs one who buys a Bugatti Veyron?
When you eat out at a restaurant, do you choose only between budget fast food chains like McDonald's, BK, DQ, Taco Bell, etc? You've never, ever paid for a personal meal that costs over $10?"

Guibo

I understand that material specifications can vary from one manufacturer to the next, even if the same supplier is used. I hope you can understand that there is a world of difference between an Audi A3 vs a Bugatti Veyron, even if the same supplier is used. (If you cannot see the difference, then be so transparent as to say so.)
You are quite sure Corvette components are made in the same way? Perhaps they are, but the onus is on you to show it.

And please don't think no one is catching you move the goal post from "They [Draexlmaeir] fabricate and install all subcomponent systems for both cars" now toward one of "material specification."

Achmed

You can keep asking those questions all you want, re-bold them, etc. but I tend not to answer stupid questions, so don't hold your breath for a reply.

Guibo

Those are not stupid questions. GM, in its promotional material for the C6Z, even published their target figure. You seem to be an expert on median Corvette buyer incomes. Give me the figure.
So you have never, ever spent more than $10 on a personal meal in a restaurant. Got it. I could be wrong, but I think the average new Corvette buyer, making the median $87k a year (comfortably in excess of the national median) probably has a different sense of value than you do.

skank

First off Notch, please post the 7:18 video of the 911 GT2 RS at the ring. We'll all wait. You keep blowing that 7:18 BS even though Porsche never ran it or video verified it like Corvette did with their 7:19.63. Guibo, did you actually read Draxlmaier web site or are you still in denial as well over the interior quality of the C7.

Achmed

lol, I just said earlier that I won't reply to these dumb questions and what do you do, spend more time re-typing them

Guibo

I did look at the website. Nowhere does it say they "fabricate and install all subcomponent systems" for both the Corvette and 911. The video I posted clearly shows Porsche personnel fabricating the leather-covered dash for the 911 in Porsche's own in-house upholstery department. I have eyes enough to see there are details of the 911 interior that the Corvette doesn't seem to even want to address. And that's before you dip into the Porsche Exclusive catalog which is far and away more extensive than anything you will find from any GM product (premium brand Cadillac included).
It is the same for a Veyron vs an Audi A3. You seriously can't tell the difference in design and materials between them?
I'll tell you what else I've read: Independent reviews which say the C7's quality, while greatly improved over the C6, isn't up to par with Porsche. There are also reports from current and prospective Corvette buyers who agree with those assessments.

Guibo

You claim these are dumb questions, yet GM made it very clear to their dealers with this promotional material that targeting a certain income demographic is not dumb. It sounds like you think you know more about what is important in product development and marketing than GM themselves.
Achmed, it's OK if your financial situation doesn't allow you to spend more than $10 on a meal. I'm not judging you on that. Just trying to get a better sense of your idea of "value," since it seems it's very possible your sense is quite different from someone making $87k/yr. Am I wrong to think that that is the case?

Achmed

there you go again

Guibo

Achmed, why is it so hard for you to admit that you've spent more than $10 on a meal?

SD1

I dont care what the tests say. If "I" dont like it, it could put a satellite in orbit and I wouldnt buy it.

VETTE-NV

If history has shown us anything, it's that you don't necessarily need brains to make plenty of money. However, if you take it as a badge of honor that you gave your money (whether hard earned or not) to a company that charges too much for their product, and seems to be proud of the fact, then most assuredly you are a moron.

Bravo to Porsche for being so profitable and for creating some of the best BS marketing in automotive history. If you feel comfortable about lining their pockets with your money, more power to ya.....but I wouldn't brag about it.