JoesC5

There is a website that list gas stations that have gas without ethanol but it doesn't seem to be up to date. Here in Springfield, MO(southwest Missouri on I-44) we have Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations that have 94 octane without ethanol (87 & 89 octane have ethanol) and Rapid Roberts Conoco with 93 non ethanol(some only have 91 non ethanol, don't know why they all don't have 93). We also have Signal with 91 octane without ethanol. The Phillips 66 and the Conoco are Top Teir stations.

If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.

I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.

We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.

Vette_DD

The stations here in middle TN that have gas with no ethanol change frequently. For now, the station where I buy premium for the C6 has ethanol only in their regular gas.

JoesC5

They might also have it in their middle grade as I believe that most, if not all, stations store gas in reg 87 and premium 91,92, 93 or 94 and blend reg & premium at the pump to get the middle grade 89 octane.

jksvet

Without getting into all the ins and outs of gasoline, the terminal that feeds that market is out of Mt. Vernon. ConocoPhillips is the same company, and hence the same gas. I believe it's even their pipeline that feeds out of Ponca City. There is nothing other than 91 octane premium through that terminal by ConocoPhillips. If you blended it with ethanol, it would meet the 94 octane rating. So, if your getting 94 octane in SW Missouri, it's because it has ethanol in it. Missouri no longer requires that pumps be labeled if the product contains ethanol or not, but it previously did.

Vette5.5

Are you sure any of this is true, as most gasoline's now contain at least 5 or 6% ethanol to replace the phased out MTBE anti knock compound additive's. Usually if ethanol content is below 10%, doesn't need to be listed. Pretty much reality, and not much we can do about it. Also, don't assume all gas is the same. A few year's back here in Michigan, there was a large pipe line break, causing local fuel shortages. Plenty of availible fuel in surrounding state's, but couldn't be trucked here, because of different seasonal flash point blend's. Nice to see our government tax dollar's at work here.

jksvet

There are over 20 different blends of fuel. It's referred to as boutique fuels. The "recipe" is determined by the EPA based upon your air quality. If your in what is called a non attainment area (most metopolitan areas, you will have a form of reformulated gasoline that will contain ethanol. It's used as an oxygenate to help emissions. If you are in an area that is not designated as a non attainment area such as Southwest Miissouri, conventional fuel is available. That is regular gasoline with no oxygenate added. Now, when the price of ethanol is cheaper than gas, such as it is now, the fuel marketers will "splash blend" ethanol with the gasoline at the 10% mixture. In Missouri it is actually a law that they do so when the price of ethanol is less than gasoline.

subseawellhead

Louisiana only
http://www.louisianasportsman.com/ethanol_free.php


Venezuela, 95 octane, 53 litres for less than a dollar

FortMorganAl

That's easy in a socialist country where the government owns everything and just prints whatever money is needed. That dollar is worthless anyway.

Even major stations change often. A local Chevron had sticker that said "Contains NO ethanol" and the next time I went it the stickers said "Contains 10% ethanol". Many states do not require stickers and many states require ALL gas contain ethanol. The EPA then steps in and requires ethanol in all major cities.

When traveling I fill up on the Interstate because I figure the volume is higher so less chance of getting old gas. I stay away from filling up near any major cities trying to stay away from the EPA requirement of ethanol. Then I hope for the best.

JoesC5

The Rapid Roberts Conoco stations have a large sticker on the pump stating their premium does not contain ethanol and Signal advertises their premium as not containing ethanol. I asked both Rapid Roberts(Conoco) and Eagle Stop(Phillips66) management if their premium contains ethanol and the replied "no, it does not". The retailers can not advertize their gas are being ethanol free if it does, in fact, contain ethanol.The law in Missouri says that the retailers can sell gas not containing ethanol if they can purchase it wholesale cheaper then gas containing ethanol. Because of the many lakes around here, and the economic impact that they have to the local economy, gas stations can sell non ethanol premium as the ethanol screws up the boats(along with other vehicles, etc). I will not put any gas with ethanol in my 56 and 64 vettes as it will corrode the gas tank, lines and carb.

"The Missouri Renewable Fuel Standard Act
On January 1, 2008, the Missouri Renewable Fuel Standard becomes effective. Under this standard, all gasoline offered for sale in Missouri must contain 10% ethanol.

A few exemptions to the standard will allow gasoline without ethanol to be sold:

•When ethanol blends purchased at wholesale exceed the price of gasoline
•When selling premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 or higher
•Gasoline sold at airports
•Gasoline sold at marinas
Although premium is exempted from the requirement, it may be blended with ethanol.

Missouri does not require ethanol labeling on gasoline dispensers. Therefore, if a consumer has a specific application that requires a fuel without ethanol, the consumer must purchase premium unleaded gasoline with an octane of 91 or higher that is also advertised as not containing ethanol."


If the pump says that their premium is 94 octane and the sticker on the pumps says that their premium does not contain ethanol, I believe them as in both cases it is against the law to missrepresent the octane rating and whether the gas has ethanol or not. Missouri does not require the retailers to state on their pumps whether the gas contains ethanol or not, but to advertize it as not containing ethanol when it does, is against the law.

ghostrunner

Travel thru Springfield often where are these stations located or is it all of them

BSE1956

Unless you own a testing lab, just assume that you are being handed a pile of BS in most cases. It's a blind item, and one has to wonder who is less honest, the folks that produce and refine it, or the "regulators" that are turning their heads the other way.

JoesC5

The Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations(94 w/o ethanol) that I use are at S Kimbrough Ave at E Battlefield Rd, and W Republic Rd at the West Bypass. The Rapid Roberts that I use (93 w/o ethanol) is at Fremont and E Republic Rd. All three on the south side of town.There are some of the Rapid Roberts Conoco that have 91 w/o ethanol so it's best to check if you don't use the ones I listed(from personal experience).

JoesC5

I believe that all states, except for maybe 3 or 4, require octane testing to be included with their other gasoline testing.

sxeC7

Has anyone done dyno testing to see if there is an HP loss between 93 rated fuels with and without ethanol, base on the same engine, conditions, etc.?

pettvette

Ethanol content testers can be found online for less than $20 dollars... I got one here...

http://www.fuel-testers.com/

kev1949

I think the only way you can get 94 octane with no ethanol in it is to build your own refinery and make your own gas.

6spdC6

If the website you mentioned is national, how about a link!

I have stopped or called just about every station I know of in a 10 mile radius and want some real gas. I store gas for an emergency generator and have a bunch of 2 stroke small engines!
Thanks!

HyperX

I actually go out of my way to find gas with Ethanol.. Less money for the Arabs is good in my book!!

CSixDude

Go here

http://pure-gas.org/

Most of them listed are up to date. However, I'm finding that the ones in Texas are starting to dry up one by one, and I think pretty soon they will all be gone. I believe there may be a federal mandate that kicks in sometime this year that will force EVERY station to go to E10, regardless of what state you are in.

6spdC6

Thank you!