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Old 01-27-2012, 07:42 AM
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Hi all,

I'm having one h*ll of a time driving my 'vette around without hearing the nerve-breaking screeching noises when ever I pass on anything taller than about 4 in. from ground!, all that happened after I installed the Hooker Super Comps. headers to the 454 engine, now I can't go back to the stock manifolds because of many reasons, 1st of all, I really enjoy the added HP/TQ after these headers!, 2nd is that I already cut the pipes to fit them, so returning to the stock form is a major headache.

Is there any other kind of BBC headers that would give me more ground clearance?, shall I go with the Hooker Comp. headers instead?, I can live with losing 5 or 10 HP in return of having more ground clearance.

Please don't suggest to rise the car, I really like its stance I just can't touch it.

Here is a pic of how to looks, that lower flange bolt is really adding insult to injury! :

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What size are they? My .600" raised exhaust ports actually helped the issue on my car by getting them up a little higher...but the flanges still got banged up sometimes. I finally cut the flanges off the header and pipe and used a wrap around band clamp...but my headers had 3.5" collectors and a 3.5" pipe..so fairly easy. My headers wer 2-1/8" Hookers.

You'll end up having to do something with the exhaust pipe anyway if you change since the odds of finding a different header to line up perfect with what you have is not good.

I just got my hands on a set of shorty headers from Corvette Central that are very nicely made. You might look at them. Not as good as long tube Hookers probably..but better than manifolds.

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050B

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Hi Jim, the ones that I have are the 1 7/8 in. dia. with the 3 in. collectors., my main problem are the primaries, they hang so low and that awful location of the lower flange bolt!

These shorties look really nice, but at $800, not sure if they worth it, giving that they are still shorties and I don't think they will perform as close as the long tube ones.

Anyone tried the Hooker Comps? are they hang higher than the Super Comps?
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Where do you have the most issues with dragging? On the street or when transitioning into drivesways? Won't the flange rotate a little so the bolt is not on the bottom? My Hedman long tubes would drag, but only when pulling out of my driveway. I had to back it out to keep from dragging. I just put a high capacity pan on my transmission, talk about something hanging low. No issues yet, not even on my driveway which seems to be my measuring stick.
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THEY USED TO MAKE ROUND FOUR BOLT FLANGES AND GASKETS. THE BOLTS ENDED UP TORWARD THE SIDES OF THE HEADERS. i WENT THROUGH THIS HOOKER CRAP WITH MY 2 1/8 3 1/2 COLLECTOR BACK IN 1973.
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOUR 3 INCH COLLECTER WOULD BE HELPING YOU BUT LOOKING AT THE PICTURE LOOKS LIKE YOUR JUST AS BAD OFF AS I WAS. I EVEN HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE COLLECTOR ON THE RIGHT SIDE FLOORBOARD BEING TO CLOSE TO THE FLOOR BURNING THE FIBERGLASS FLOOR.

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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
What size are they? My .600" raised exhaust ports actually helped the issue on my car by getting them up a little higher...but the flanges still got banged up sometimes. I finally cut the flanges off the header and pipe and used a wrap around band clamp...but my headers had 3.5" collectors and a 3.5" pipe..so fairly easy. My headers wer 2-1/8" Hookers.

You'll end up having to do something with the exhaust pipe anyway if you change since the odds of finding a different header to line up perfect with what you have is not good.

I just got my hands on a set of shorty headers from Corvette Central that are very nicely made. You might look at them. Not as good as long tube Hookers probably..but better than manifolds.

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050B

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Like Jim I now have Super Comps - 2 1/8" primaries with 3 1/2" collectors but 3" stainless pipes - flange removed - yes very low - you just need to be careful with on/off ramps in to driveways and road humps. Routing the pipes through the chassis holes wouldn't have made much difference (the collectors are still lower!) It helps using 27 1/2" dia rear rubber and non-lowered F41 suspension!
I previously used 1 7/8" Hedmans - the collectors are much further forward under the floor and therefore give better ground clearance (but hotter feet) - the Super Comps on my car made a surprising amount of difference to mid-range and top end - Oh Yes, and feet are cooler!

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I had Hedman Headers 1 7/8" primaries on BBC 427ci, good fit and had no issue with ground clearance, they fit real nice through stock trany cross-member and tuck up high between trany and trany tunnel. After switching to 572ci I installed Hooker Super comp 2 1/8'' and had vary little ground clearance even with cutting flanges as Jim mentioned, now I have Side pipes and have no problem with clearance.
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Some people worry about hitting their oil pan or front spoiler.... those pipes are sooo close to the ground.

I cant believe you haven't scraped them up yet.

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I just came through McJack's web page, has anybody tried their full length headers? well it give me any added ground clearance?, I really like the idea of the cast iron manifold relpacement made by them (exactly like the ones that Jim mentioned), but I don't want to loose much HP/TQ.

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