Help with Windshield Glare Issue
09-29-2012, 03:12 PM
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Help with Windshield Glare Issue
Trying to figure out how to get rid of this windshield glare. I washed the car, and windows has been cleaned with Stoners and lint free towel and still nothing. I even tried Griot's blue clay and that didn't work.
I'm at a loss. Any suggestions for getting rid of this? Its only visible when the sun hits it from an angle, obviously.
I'm at a loss. Any suggestions for getting rid of this? Its only visible when the sun hits it from an angle, obviously.
09-29-2012, 03:47 PM
#2
Former Vendor
There are two products that can help with glass. One is generally a glass cleaner and called DP Glass Restorer. It wont polish glass deeply but removes old dirt and grime and waterspots on glass and prep for something like Aquapel.
http://www.autogeek.net/dp515.html
The second product is Ceriglass, and its a true glass polish. It can remove minor to medium issues but I also suggest alot of care when using this product. It has a cutting agent in it and best used by professional or someone with alot of patience and care.
http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ceriglass-polish.html
http://www.autogeek.net/dp515.html
The second product is Ceriglass, and its a true glass polish. It can remove minor to medium issues but I also suggest alot of care when using this product. It has a cutting agent in it and best used by professional or someone with alot of patience and care.
http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ceriglass-polish.html
10-04-2012, 08:45 PM
#3
Le Mans Master
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Any other suggestions?
10-05-2012, 06:36 AM
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I can't tell if that is due to scratches in the glass or just stubborn residue. If it is from residue I would try using isopropyl alcohol on a towel or use bar keepers friend (just don't allow it to get on the trim around the window).
I have also had great success using Adam's polishes on their 4" focus pads mounted on a drill or PC 7424 to quickly get glass super clean very quickly. This is my normal technique when detailing a car as I can clean a windshield in just a couple minutes.
If it isn't residue then you are left trying to do glass polishing or replacing the glass.
I have also had great success using Adam's polishes on their 4" focus pads mounted on a drill or PC 7424 to quickly get glass super clean very quickly. This is my normal technique when detailing a car as I can clean a windshield in just a couple minutes.
If it isn't residue then you are left trying to do glass polishing or replacing the glass.
Last edited by DaveVY; 10-05-2012 at 06:40 AM.
10-06-2012, 09:18 PM
#5
Drifting
I'll bet you have been applying "leather conditioners" to your seats???
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
10-07-2012, 02:39 AM
#6
Drifting
I'll bet you have been applying "leather conditioners" to your seats???
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
10-07-2012, 09:15 AM
#7
Former Vendor
The stuff found on glass (often called outgassing) actually has more to do with the many plastics used in an automobile. As they move thru the environment (heat, cool, humid, dry) they can let off some byproduct into the atmosphere and in a closed car is often noted on glass.
10-07-2012, 11:53 AM
#8
Drifting
Killer is absolutely right. Until the plastics dry, they will out-gas. It usually takes 1-2 years until the plastics stop out-gassing.
Call it "BS" if you want but just like Killer said about out-gassing, leather conditioners evaporate and go into the atmosphere. Just like the plastic parts drying and creating a film on the windshield, so do the leather conditioners (or any product with water in it such as carpet shampoo).
Leather conditioners are almost pure water. When water evaporates, it maintains it's h2o properties. Just like out-gassing, the water must go somewhere when it evaporates in a sealed environment like your car. It doesn't just disappear!
Ever notice interior parts like the dash, gauge cluster, Navigation screen, etc., get a film over them even though they are dust free? This is from the leather conditioner evaporating.
Please keep in mind it isn't only leather conditioner that evaporates in your car. Carpet champoo, etc., will create the same affect!
Call it "BS" if you want, but put a drop of leather conditioner on your seat. Let is sit there in your car with the windows up. Take a look at this drop 24 hours later. It will be almost gone since all the water evaporated. Where do you think the evaporation goes in a sealed up car?
Call it "BS" if you want but just like Killer said about out-gassing, leather conditioners evaporate and go into the atmosphere. Just like the plastic parts drying and creating a film on the windshield, so do the leather conditioners (or any product with water in it such as carpet shampoo).
Leather conditioners are almost pure water. When water evaporates, it maintains it's h2o properties. Just like out-gassing, the water must go somewhere when it evaporates in a sealed environment like your car. It doesn't just disappear!
Ever notice interior parts like the dash, gauge cluster, Navigation screen, etc., get a film over them even though they are dust free? This is from the leather conditioner evaporating.
Please keep in mind it isn't only leather conditioner that evaporates in your car. Carpet champoo, etc., will create the same affect!
Call it "BS" if you want, but put a drop of leather conditioner on your seat. Let is sit there in your car with the windows up. Take a look at this drop 24 hours later. It will be almost gone since all the water evaporated. Where do you think the evaporation goes in a sealed up car?
10-07-2012, 12:15 PM
#9
Drifting
Six Gun:
I have absolutely no interest in whether you believe this or not! I am just trying to share my experiences and study on why my leather seats always showed wear so quickly. Please keep in mind that I do not sell leather conditioners, nor do I have a warehouse stocked with leather conditioners I need to sell.
First, I am not overweight and I do not let my butt cross against the bolster when I get in and out of my cars.
Since 2005, I have owned 3 C6 Corvettes, 3 Acura NSX's, 1 C4 Corvette, 3 Ford Expeditions, 2 Hummers and 1 Ferrari 360 (yes, I am a car nut!). I take care of my cars like they are family. I clean and wax them religiously as I find it relaxing to do.
I always conditioned my seats with leather conditioners. I have used Lexol, Zaino, Mothers, and a variety of others. I continued this until I did some background on how leather seats are made today.
I found that all leather seats have a clear urethane coating over them. Due to the EPA, all manufacturer paints must now be water based. Whether we like it or not, water based paints do not hold up like solvent based.
The product in conditioners breaks down the urethane properties and allows the seat to begin deteriorating. I have noticed three things since I stopped using leather conditioners; 1) My leather is much more durable; 2) My leather seats stay much cleaner; 3) My windows don't get "foggy" inside.
Below are links to a Professional Dealers Forum much like this one. Read away if you still don't believe me!
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...ditioning.html
http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...ning-care.html
I guess these guys, real professional leather experts, not the car detailer down the street or a company who sells leather conditioners, are full of BS also???
I have absolutely no interest in whether you believe this or not! I am just trying to share my experiences and study on why my leather seats always showed wear so quickly. Please keep in mind that I do not sell leather conditioners, nor do I have a warehouse stocked with leather conditioners I need to sell.
First, I am not overweight and I do not let my butt cross against the bolster when I get in and out of my cars.
Since 2005, I have owned 3 C6 Corvettes, 3 Acura NSX's, 1 C4 Corvette, 3 Ford Expeditions, 2 Hummers and 1 Ferrari 360 (yes, I am a car nut!). I take care of my cars like they are family. I clean and wax them religiously as I find it relaxing to do.
I always conditioned my seats with leather conditioners. I have used Lexol, Zaino, Mothers, and a variety of others. I continued this until I did some background on how leather seats are made today.
I found that all leather seats have a clear urethane coating over them. Due to the EPA, all manufacturer paints must now be water based. Whether we like it or not, water based paints do not hold up like solvent based.
The product in conditioners breaks down the urethane properties and allows the seat to begin deteriorating. I have noticed three things since I stopped using leather conditioners; 1) My leather is much more durable; 2) My leather seats stay much cleaner; 3) My windows don't get "foggy" inside.
Below are links to a Professional Dealers Forum much like this one. Read away if you still don't believe me!
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...ditioning.html
http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...ning-care.html
I guess these guys, real professional leather experts, not the car detailer down the street or a company who sells leather conditioners, are full of BS also???
10-07-2012, 12:21 PM
#10
Drifting
Below is a link how to care for your seats! This explains the urethane coating, how to keep them looking new and what not to do!
http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...-products.html
http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopia...-products.html
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
#11
Former Vendor
Looks like you're using a towel that has been used (at 1 time or another) to remove wax/polish. It's very important to keep your glass towels separate from all your others wash them seperately too. Wax doesn't easily get washed out of your towels and when used on glass can redeposit a film backl on the glass.
I would try using a fresh towel and see what happens.
Outgassing is very common 9especially with newer vehicles), but this takes quite a while to coat your glass like this.
I would try using a fresh towel and see what happens.
Outgassing is very common 9especially with newer vehicles), but this takes quite a while to coat your glass like this.
10-15-2012, 07:19 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I'll bet you have been applying "leather conditioners" to your seats???
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
Corvette leather seats are made mostly of vinyl. The only leather is the inserts between your legs. This leather is actually painted with a urethane coating to seal in the color.
Leather conditioners cannot soak into the leather due to this urethane coating. The conditioner sits on your seats until you either rub it off with your cloths as you get in and out of your car, or; it evaporates inside the car.
When these conditioners evaporate, they leave a greasy film on the inside of the windows that is very, very difficult to remove. Instead of washing off, it just smears on the glass.
What you need to do is quit using leather conditioners. They do NOTHING for your leather seats except for make the stitching dirty and hold dirt. If you want your leather to look new, use Woolite every once in a while to clean them....nothing else!
Then, use rubbing alcohol on the inside of the glass windshield to remove the foggy residue left behind by the evaporated leather conditioner.
You are going to hear from a lot of people who say this is BS. Listen to them if you want your leather seats to wear quicker! Leather conditioners cannot, and will not, soak into leather seats. If you want proof, simply put a drop of water on your seats. Then, watch the water runoff. It does not soak into the seat!
Take a look at this link for more info:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...xperience.html
10-15-2012, 07:20 PM
#13
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
I can't tell if that is due to scratches in the glass or just stubborn residue. If it is from residue I would try using isopropyl alcohol on a towel or use bar keepers friend (just don't allow it to get on the trim around the window).
I have also had great success using Adam's polishes on their 4" focus pads mounted on a drill or PC 7424 to quickly get glass super clean very quickly. This is my normal technique when detailing a car as I can clean a windshield in just a couple minutes.
If it isn't residue then you are left trying to do glass polishing or replacing the glass.
I have also had great success using Adam's polishes on their 4" focus pads mounted on a drill or PC 7424 to quickly get glass super clean very quickly. This is my normal technique when detailing a car as I can clean a windshield in just a couple minutes.
If it isn't residue then you are left trying to do glass polishing or replacing the glass.
10-15-2012, 07:23 PM
#14
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Appreciate the feedback from all. Thanks