Using LS2 block safe for road race build?
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Using LS2 block safe for road race build?
Looks like i'm going to get an engine built to replace my blown LS6. Engine builder says he has a used LS2 block he'll sell me for same price as new 5.3 block. I know i've heard of oiling issues in the past for LS2 and 3's on track. Is the problem in the block? Or am I safe to use this LS2 block to get a few extra cubes with built bottom end and my LS6 heads?
Also builder says he uses C6 oil pans instead of my C5 pan for better oiling. Is that the norm and good call? I had not heard of using a C6 oil pan.
Thanks for any input.
Also builder says he uses C6 oil pans instead of my C5 pan for better oiling. Is that the norm and good call? I had not heard of using a C6 oil pan.
Thanks for any input.
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I was in the same situation. I finally lost my forged LS6 383 after years of reliable road course fun and decided to replace it with a forged LS2. It was the right decision! Excellent power and torque - reliable performance. A guy that lives in my area has been running a mostly stock LS2 in his C6 and he's been taking on the road courses for years now with just basic maintenance. Go for it! Mike
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It ain't the block, they use them in the Nascar K&N Series and spin them 7600-7800 to get about 620 HP (dry sump). The problem is oil control using a stock type pan with sticky tires and enduring long high g corners.
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If you are tracking car on sticky tires, need to invest in a drysump system. Accusump as a minimum. There's a reason gm went to drysump oil system with the ls7 and ls3 grandsport manual trans. (Even the factory ones don't compare to something from the aftermarket guys)
Look to speak to guys running those ASA stock cars. They usually run LS motors with a one stage or up to 3 or 4 stage drysump systems.
If you have the money for a forged motor, most track guys are going to recommend going with a more stock motor and spend your money on a drysump system and seat time.
Would hate to see you spend 10k+ on a forged motor just to be disappointed when it lets go on a right hand sweeper at the track.
Look to speak to guys running those ASA stock cars. They usually run LS motors with a one stage or up to 3 or 4 stage drysump systems.
If you have the money for a forged motor, most track guys are going to recommend going with a more stock motor and spend your money on a drysump system and seat time.
Would hate to see you spend 10k+ on a forged motor just to be disappointed when it lets go on a right hand sweeper at the track.
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If you want to be "safe" the only LS motors that don't need a dry sump are the LS1/LS6's it's plain and simple.
There are some people that have had LS2's and LS3's live without a dry sump but it all depends on the individual. What tires are they running? How hard are they driving? How high are they spinning it?
Someone who is running R888's spinning it to 6500 and not breaking any lap records would probably be fine running a LS2 without a dry-sump - Danny Popp driving angry on sticker A6's going for his next lap record not so much.
Be honest with yourself, how hard are you going to drive the car? Will you be happy not running the stickiest of R-compounds? If so you may be able to run an LS2 with the C5 oil pan and a Accusump, if not start pricing out a dry sump.
And if you are even thinking about it
Aero = Dry sump
There are some people that have had LS2's and LS3's live without a dry sump but it all depends on the individual. What tires are they running? How hard are they driving? How high are they spinning it?
Someone who is running R888's spinning it to 6500 and not breaking any lap records would probably be fine running a LS2 without a dry-sump - Danny Popp driving angry on sticker A6's going for his next lap record not so much.
Be honest with yourself, how hard are you going to drive the car? Will you be happy not running the stickiest of R-compounds? If so you may be able to run an LS2 with the C5 oil pan and a Accusump, if not start pricing out a dry sump.
And if you are even thinking about it
Aero = Dry sump
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Based on his current car prep vs. lap times, I would consider him to be one of the quickest/best drivers I've run against in quite a while.
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Looks like engine builder wants $8500 now total. I'm probably looking at crate LS6 again. Like was said above I don't want to spend that kind of money and blow up again. I can't afford a dry sump. Hell I can't afford a new motor right now but I can't stay away from the track crack for that long.
I think i'll start looking into an accusump.